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w e l l b e s t on t h e m a r k e t r i g h t N O W i s A T I R a d e on 9 8 0 0 X T .
h o w e v e r , n V i d i a r e l e a s e d t h e 5 9 5 0 v i d e o c a r d t h a t b en c h m a r k s m u c h h i g h e r an d i s c on s i d e r e d t h e n e x t l e v e l u p f r o m t h e A T I c a r d , b u t o t h e r t h an T e c h T V , i h a v e n o t s e en i t an y w h e r e t o b u y y e t . i f i g u r e i t w i l l b e a l on g in a f e w m on t h s , b u t b y t h en , A T I s h o u l d a l s o b e in t r o d u c in g t h e i r n e x t g en e r a t i on c a r d .
I a m w a i t in g f o r t h e in t r o o f P C I E x p r e s s m o t h e r b o a r d s . t h e y w i l l h a v e a X 1 6 s l o t d e s i gn e d f o r v i d e o c a r d s t h a t p r o m i s e s u p t o 8 t i m e s t h e b an d w i d t h o f t h e t o p o f t h e l in e A G P c a r d s . t h e s a d t h in g i s , i s t h a t b o t h n V i d i a an d A T I c l a i m t o a l r e a d y h a v e P C I E x p r e s s v i d e o c a r d s a l r e a d y m a d e an d t h e y a r e j u s t w a i t in g f o r t h e m o t h e r b o a r d s n o w .
t en t a t i v e w o r d s a y s t h i s s u m m e r f o r t h e M B ' s an d i h a v en t h e a r d d i f f e r en t y e t , b u t i t s k in d a d i s c o u r a g in g t h a t i h a v e y e t t o s e e a b o a r d , p r o t o t y p e o r w h a t e v e r t o t e s t .
n o w i f y o u w an t a g o o d v i d e o c a r d t h a t g i v e s p r o b a b l y t h e b e s t b an g f o r t h e b u c k v e r s e s p e r f o r m an c e , i w o u l d g o w i t h t h e A T I R a d e on 9 6 0 0 X T o r p r o . t h e c a r d i s on e s t e p b e l o w t h e 9 8 0 0 an d i v e s e en e m g o in g f o r $ 1 1 9 f o r t h e 1 2 8 M B v e r s i on .
a l s o k e e p in m in d t h a t t h e b i g g e s t f a c t o r in v i d e o q u a l i t y i s s t i l l t h e p r o c e s s o r . v i d e o c a r d s c an d o s o m e p r o c e s s in g , b u t t h e y p r i m a r i l y h an d l e s t a t i c i m a g e s . in a v i d e o g a m e w h e r e y o u h a v e m u l t i p l e p e o p l e r un n in g a r o un d s h o o t in g an d s t u f f , t h e p r o c e s s o r h a s t o h an d l e t h a t s t u f f . a c t u a l l y t h e b e s t w a y t o l o o k a t i t i s , i f y o u kn o w a h e a d o f t i m e w h a t i s g o in g t o h a p p en t h en t h e v i d e o c a r d c an h an d l e t h a t d i r e c t l y w i t h o u t e v en s en d in g in f o t o t h e p r o c e s s o r . an e x a m p l e w o u l d b e a d r i v in g g a m e . t h e s c en e r y m a y b e m o v in g , b u t i t i s s t i l l c on s i d e r e d s t a t i c . t h e g a m e an d v i d e o c a r d kn o w s w h a t s a r o un d t h e c o rn e r . b u t o t h e r c a r s on t h e r o a d m u s t b e c on t r o l l e d b y t h e p r o c e s s o r b e c a u s e t h e y a r e b e in g d r i v en r an d o m l y b y A I o r o t h e r p e o p l e s o t h e i r p o s i t i on s m u s t b e c on s t an t l y c o m p u t e d b y t h e p r o c e s s o r .
s o i f y o u r p r o c e s s o r i s s l o w , a h u g e u p g r a d e in t h e v i d e o c a r d w i l l on l y r e s u l t in s m a l l in c r e a s e in p e r f o r m an c e . i t s l i k e w h a t b en e f i t i s d r i v in g a c o r v e t t e in r u s h h o u r t r a f f i c ? in t h o s e c on d i t i on s , e v en a p in t o c o u l d k e e p u p w i t h y o u .
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T h e n e w e s t an d s t r on g e s t v i d e o c a r d t h a t h a v e j u s t b e en r e l e a s e d a r e N V I D I A ' s G e F o r c e 6 8 0 0 U l t r a an d A T I ' s X 8 0 0 X T b u t I d o u b t t h e y a r e a v i l a b l e in t h e s h o p s y e t . S t i l l I ' m s u r e t h e y w i l l b e s o on r e p l a c e d b y s o m e t h in g f a s t e r , s u c h i s t h e c a s e w i t h a l l P C h a r d w a r e t h e t i t a g e s f a s t an d v i d e o c a r d s a r e an e x t r e m e e x a m p l e o f t h i s p r o c e s s . T h e t r i c k w h i l e c h o o s in g t h e v i d e o c a r d i s t o m a k e i t s u i t a b l e t o y o u r n e e d s . I f y o u w an t t o p l a y t h e n e w e s t 3 D g a m e s l o o k f o r h i g h - en d o r m i d d l e r an g e v i d e o c a r d s ( m i d d l e - r an g e I M O i s a m u c h b e t t e r o p t i on c o s t / v a l u e w i s e ) , m a k e s u r e t h e c a r d s u p p o r t s D i r e c t X 9 h a s a t l e a s t 1 2 8 M B f a s t c l o c k m e m o r y ( a l t h o u g h g a m e r s s h o u l d p r o b a b l y s t i c k t o 2 5 6 M B ) , an d c h o o s e b e t w e en 1 2 8 o r 2 5 6 b i t w i d e b u s . I f y o u n e e d on l y t o w o k w i t h w o r d p r o c e s s in g , s u r f t h e n e t , o r w a t c h m o v i e s e v en in t e g r a t e d v i d e o c a r d i s en o u g h , a l t h o u g h m a k e s u r e t h e r e ' s an A G P s l o t on t h e m o b o in c a s e y o u w an t t o u p g r a d e l a t e r . T h e r e a r e a l s o a d d i t i on a l t h in g s t o c on s i d e r l i k e V I V O ( v i d o e o u t / v i d i e o in ) c a p a b i l i t y i f y o u w an t t o u s e i t w o r k on y o u r o wn f i l m s e t c .
N o w t h e m i d - r an g e c a r d s a r e : A T I r a d e on 9 6 0 0 o r 9 6 0 0 P r o 9 6 0 0 X T , 9 7 0 0 - $ 1 0 0 u p t o $ 2 0 0 an d N V I D i A G F o r c e F X 5 6 0 0 U l t r a o r 5 7 0 0 - $ 1 0 0 u p t o $ 2 0 0
t h e h i g h - en d : $ 4 0 0 + R a d e on X 8 0 0 , R a d e on 9 8 0 0 , N V I D I A G F o r c e F X 5 9 0 0 , 5 9 5 0
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A T I C a r d s a r e v e r y n i c e an d a l l b u t t h e i r s i t e s u p p o r t l a c k s t o b e d e s i r e d w h en y o u g o t o i t l o o k in g f o r h e l p o r d r i v e r s I M O I f o un d A T I ' s s i t e t o b e v e r y c on f u s in g an d n o t v e r y u s e r f r e i dn l y w h en m y f r i en d u p g r a d e d h i s c a r d an d a s k e d m e i f i c o u l d h e l p f in d t h e n e w d r i v e r s f o r h i s c a r d . . . w h en i t r i e d i t w a s a n i t e m a r e
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I ' v e h e a r d a b o u t t h e A T I d r i v e r p r o b l e m s a s w e l l . I j u s t u p g r a d e d t o an N v i d i a T i 4 2 0 0 a b o u t 4 m on t h s a g o an d r e a l l y l i k e i t . F o r s o m e s t r an g e r e a s on t h o u g h t h e d r i v e r b e c a m e c o r r u p t e d on i t . A r e in s t a l l c u r e d t h e p r o b l e m . I t h in k t h e A T I d r i v e r s a r e t r o u b l e s o m e f r o m t h e s t a r t f r o m w h a t I ' v e r e a d .
A s f a r a s u p g r a d in g v i d e o c a r d s m a k e s u r e y o u r c o m p u t e r w i l l s u p p o r t t h e n e w c a r d . I f y o u r c o m p u t e r i s m o r e t h an a c o u p l e o f y e a r s o l d i t m a y n o t s u p p o r t t h e h i g h en d c a r d . T h e p r o c e s s o r m a y a l s o l i m i t t h e p e r f o r m an c e a s w e l l .
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o k y o u g u y s g o t m e p a r an o i d , s o i w en t t o A T I ' s s i t e t o s e e w h a t t h e d r i v e r h a s s l e i s a l l a b o u t . . . w e l l i l o o k e d a l l o v e r an d s t i l l c an t f in d an y t h in g t h a t w o u l d b e e v en r e m o t e l y c on s i d e r e d c on f u s in g . . .
o k m a y b e i f w e a r e t a l k in g r e a l o l d s t u f f . b u t f o r an y t h in g A T I h a s m a d e in t h e p a s t 2 y e a r s , i t s p r e t t y s i m p l e . . .
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t h e s a m e C a t a l y s t d r i v e r w o r k s f o r t h e R a d e on 7 0 0 0 a l l t h e w a y t o t h e b r an d n e w 8 0 0 X T . c an t g e t an y e a s i e r t h an t h a t .
i w i l l s a y on e t h in g g o o d t h a t c a m e o u t o f t h i s . t h e r e i s a n e w d r i v e r f o r m y c a r d s . . . i h a v e a 8 5 0 0 , 9 6 0 0 p r o an d 9 8 0 0 A I W an d t h e y a l l u s e t h e e x a c t s a m e d r i v e r . an d t h a t i s t h e r e a s on w h y i s t i c k w i t h A T I . t h e y s t i l l h a v e t h e b e s t v i d e o q u a l i t y f o r m a in s t r e a m ( M a t r o x s u p p o s e d l y i s b e t t e r , b u t t h e y a r e o v e r $ 1 0 0 0 ) an d a t 2 7 . 9 M B , on l y h a v in g t o d o wn l o a d on e c o p y on a 5 6 K d i a l u p f o r 3 m a c h in e s i s s w e e e e e t ! !
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f o r on e t h in g , D on n a a s k e d w h a t i s t h e b e s t v i d e o c a r d on t h e m a r k e t r i g h t n o w . n o w a s s u m in g s h e i sn t a s k in g a b o u t $ 2 5 0 , 0 0 0 m u l t i p r o c e s s o r c a r d s , t h en t h e b e s t g a m in g c a r d on t h e m a r k e t f o r t h e d e s k t o p i s n o t t h e A T I o r n V i d i a c a r d .
i t i s t h e M a t r o x P a r h e l i a . i f y o u w an t t h e t r u e c u t t in g e d g e t e c hn o l o g y in v i d e o g a m in g l o o k h e r e . an d w h y a r e t h e y s o g o o d ? ? w e l l e v e r b e en in a F P S ( F i r s t P e r s on S h o o t e r ) an d g e t k i l l e d b y s o m e on e y o u d i dn t s e e b e c a u s e y o u h a d n o p e r i p h e r a l v i s i on ? ? s u c k s d on t i t ! ! ! e s p e c i a l l y s in c e in r e a l l i f e y o u w o u l d h a v e s e en t h e m . W e l l M a t r o x un d e r s t an d s . T h e r e i s a r e a s on w h y M a t r o x i s t h e # 1 v i d e o s y s t e m u s e d in a r c a d e g a m in g s y s t e m s . an d h e r e i s w h y . . .
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B u t t h e b e s t p a r t h e r e i s t h a t i f y o u d on t w an t t o u s e M a t r o x P r o p r i e t a r y s y s t e m , t h en D O N T . . .
k e e p in m in d t h o u g h t h a t 3 C R T m on i t o r s c o u l d p u t a m a j o r h u r t in g on t h e a v e r a g e d e s k . s t r on g l y s u g g e s t t h e B u g e y e o r 3 L C D ' s
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